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	<title>Comments on: 200 Toddlers Rally Against Hillary Clinton&#8217;s Universal Pre-K Plan</title>
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		<title>By: DR</title>
		<link>http://www.doughroller.net/news-analysis/200-toddlers-rally-against-hillary-clintons-universal-pre-k-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-10741</link>
		<dc:creator>DR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She has been a good senator, and I suspect will be a good Secretary of State, although I&#039;ve never been a fan.  The big question is whether government (i.e., taxpayers) should pay for parents to send their children to pre-school.  If they answer to that question is yes, I&#039;m not sure what distinguishes our government from a European socialist model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She has been a good senator, and I suspect will be a good Secretary of State, although I&#8217;ve never been a fan.  The big question is whether government (i.e., taxpayers) should pay for parents to send their children to pre-school.  If they answer to that question is yes, I&#8217;m not sure what distinguishes our government from a European socialist model.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i think hillary clinton went to preschool yeah. And  so cute as a little baby girl. Hillary clinton  had fun in school and becoming a good senator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i think hillary clinton went to preschool yeah. And  so cute as a little baby girl. Hillary clinton  had fun in school and becoming a good senator.</p>
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		<title>By: Anya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. So many children have had their differences crushed by the unfortunate cliques and bullying and fads of children in school and media. If this passes, then they have succeeded in the uniformity of children who will be told how to think and act the second they learn how to speak. it may sound good to some, but i notice the brainwash tendencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. So many children have had their differences crushed by the unfortunate cliques and bullying and fads of children in school and media. If this passes, then they have succeeded in the uniformity of children who will be told how to think and act the second they learn how to speak. it may sound good to some, but i notice the brainwash tendencies.</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be an unfortunate event.  The public schools already cannot handle children with a high I.Q.  Four years of age is a volatile period of development.  Put a highly intelligent toddler in a room full of 20 or more children and they will suffer.    

The other question....  Do I want some teacher with a B.S. in education being responsible for my four year old; along with 20 other toddlers?

Independence and free thinking is what makes   the few in our nation great inventors and leaders.  Not group education by a mediocre instructor.  

Yes, please look at the other countries (communism comes to mind) that force parents to work, many hours a week, while their very young children get carted off to public school.  Afterwards the government takes most of you pay for the common good.    

Then you have this whole tax the rich and give to the poor crap.  Cut medical deductions for the rich.  Sounds great unless you are a physician already not getting paid by Medicaid and Medicare.  Do you realize that 40% of failure to pay is from government insurance programs?  

Would other people, in their right mind, work over 120 hours a week and for 60% of their paycheck?  This is after 20 years of school and  another 5 years of no pay training.  

By the time a physician is 31 they start out at entry level physician pay.  Which is about 260k per year.  Then you have to pay your education loans and all those living expenses while you were training.  (Not to mention full liability for being sued on anything your liability insurance doesn&#039;t cover.)  

My husband is a physician.  On average, he works 16 hours a day, every day.  He takes home after taxes about $500k a year.  Sounds great doesn&#039;t it?  Well you take into the matter that    he works so much that is an average of $84 an hour.  We also have to pay for his practice insurance which is over 200k per year.  By the way, we also have to pay for our own health care.  No, he cannot treat everyone in our house as he specializes in one area.  

How many people work at factories and make that as a foreman working overtime?  This is without getting sued as well.  

I tell you right now, if Hillary wins and gets her way, there will be a lot of physicians leaving the profession.  Canada is a good example.  They are overcrowded and get inadequate health care.  Canadians come here if they have a serious illness.  

Do you really want your four year old, that is provided with free pre-school and health care, to have to wait to be treated for a life threatening condition?  What if he or she has a 10% chance to live and the government doesn&#039;t want to pay for that 10% chance?  Don&#039;t think it won&#039;t happen as it already does with our elderly.

People hear &quot;Free&quot; and they immediately dumb down.  Why do you think so many other people come here for their health care?  Think about the consequences of this plan... 

I would give anything to have my child be healthy and happy.  Again, I wouldn&#039;t want the  government telling me what my toddler or family member needs for treatment.  That&#039;s why we are a free country and why we have these choices. 

Perhaps you should start taxing the attorneys more to subsidize health care.  Maybe make pro athletes, that beat their wives and torture pit bulls, subsidize the health care for people that cannot afford it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be an unfortunate event.  The public schools already cannot handle children with a high I.Q.  Four years of age is a volatile period of development.  Put a highly intelligent toddler in a room full of 20 or more children and they will suffer.    </p>
<p>The other question&#8230;.  Do I want some teacher with a B.S. in education being responsible for my four year old; along with 20 other toddlers?</p>
<p>Independence and free thinking is what makes   the few in our nation great inventors and leaders.  Not group education by a mediocre instructor.  </p>
<p>Yes, please look at the other countries (communism comes to mind) that force parents to work, many hours a week, while their very young children get carted off to public school.  Afterwards the government takes most of you pay for the common good.    </p>
<p>Then you have this whole tax the rich and give to the poor crap.  Cut medical deductions for the rich.  Sounds great unless you are a physician already not getting paid by Medicaid and Medicare.  Do you realize that 40% of failure to pay is from government insurance programs?  </p>
<p>Would other people, in their right mind, work over 120 hours a week and for 60% of their paycheck?  This is after 20 years of school and  another 5 years of no pay training.  </p>
<p>By the time a physician is 31 they start out at entry level physician pay.  Which is about 260k per year.  Then you have to pay your education loans and all those living expenses while you were training.  (Not to mention full liability for being sued on anything your liability insurance doesn&#8217;t cover.)  </p>
<p>My husband is a physician.  On average, he works 16 hours a day, every day.  He takes home after taxes about $500k a year.  Sounds great doesn&#8217;t it?  Well you take into the matter that    he works so much that is an average of $84 an hour.  We also have to pay for his practice insurance which is over 200k per year.  By the way, we also have to pay for our own health care.  No, he cannot treat everyone in our house as he specializes in one area.  </p>
<p>How many people work at factories and make that as a foreman working overtime?  This is without getting sued as well.  </p>
<p>I tell you right now, if Hillary wins and gets her way, there will be a lot of physicians leaving the profession.  Canada is a good example.  They are overcrowded and get inadequate health care.  Canadians come here if they have a serious illness.  </p>
<p>Do you really want your four year old, that is provided with free pre-school and health care, to have to wait to be treated for a life threatening condition?  What if he or she has a 10% chance to live and the government doesn&#8217;t want to pay for that 10% chance?  Don&#8217;t think it won&#8217;t happen as it already does with our elderly.</p>
<p>People hear &#8220;Free&#8221; and they immediately dumb down.  Why do you think so many other people come here for their health care?  Think about the consequences of this plan&#8230; </p>
<p>I would give anything to have my child be healthy and happy.  Again, I wouldn&#8217;t want the  government telling me what my toddler or family member needs for treatment.  That&#8217;s why we are a free country and why we have these choices. </p>
<p>Perhaps you should start taxing the attorneys more to subsidize health care.  Maybe make pro athletes, that beat their wives and torture pit bulls, subsidize the health care for people that cannot afford it.</p>
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		<title>By: shadox</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 01:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post belongs in The Onion. FUNNY.

Kidding aside, the money would be well spent. I would whole heartedly support goverment funded pre-school. In addition to the positive educational impact, such investment would also boost the economy by allowing parents to join the work force, who would otherwise not be able to afford day care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post belongs in The Onion. FUNNY.</p>
<p>Kidding aside, the money would be well spent. I would whole heartedly support goverment funded pre-school. In addition to the positive educational impact, such investment would also boost the economy by allowing parents to join the work force, who would otherwise not be able to afford day care.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DR-

I just wanted to say that I enjoyed your article. I appreciate how you wrote the article from a perspective of a 4 year old, I thought it was neat. I was not aware of the pre-k plan and reading the article made me take the initiative to do my research on the topic.

Thanks,
Andy</description>
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<p>I just wanted to say that I enjoyed your article. I appreciate how you wrote the article from a perspective of a 4 year old, I thought it was neat. I was not aware of the pre-k plan and reading the article made me take the initiative to do my research on the topic.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Andy</p>
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		<title>By: DR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon, I did read the study thoroughly before posting my fictitious press release and noted the exact same thing you did about short-term benefits of pre-school.  For example, with respect to developmental competence, the report notes that &quot;By first grade, significant effects were rare. . . .&quot;  
And the conclusion of the study makes clear that the benefits of pre-k are uncertain.  Thanks for linking to the study.

@Kris, I didn&#039;t &quot;fabricate&quot; the story, which means to concoct in order to deceive.  There was not intent to make others believe the story was true, and you obviously didn&#039;t believe it was true.  It was designed (1) to be funny (you can judge whether I succeeded), and (2) to look at the Universal Pre-K program through the eyes of a 4 year old.  Apart from the $5 to $10 billion Clinton wants to spend, we are tossing our children into school at earlier and earlier ages, which I believe is counter-productive.  Education is critical, of course, but where&#039;s the balance in life?

@Matt, it is true that the story is a piece of fiction, but what better way to describe the Universal Pre-K plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon, I did read the study thoroughly before posting my fictitious press release and noted the exact same thing you did about short-term benefits of pre-school.  For example, with respect to developmental competence, the report notes that &#8220;By first grade, significant effects were rare. . . .&#8221;<br />
And the conclusion of the study makes clear that the benefits of pre-k are uncertain.  Thanks for linking to the study.</p>
<p>@Kris, I didn&#8217;t &#8220;fabricate&#8221; the story, which means to concoct in order to deceive.  There was not intent to make others believe the story was true, and you obviously didn&#8217;t believe it was true.  It was designed (1) to be funny (you can judge whether I succeeded), and (2) to look at the Universal Pre-K program through the eyes of a 4 year old.  Apart from the $5 to $10 billion Clinton wants to spend, we are tossing our children into school at earlier and earlier ages, which I believe is counter-productive.  Education is critical, of course, but where&#8217;s the balance in life?</p>
<p>@Matt, it is true that the story is a piece of fiction, but what better way to describe the Universal Pre-K plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt
There is no source.  DR fabricated the entire story including the quotes.

@Jon.  Based on references in your post, pre-k school is not the answer to closing the achievement gap.  Removing the children from the derelict parents at birth is the only hope!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt<br />
There is no source.  DR fabricated the entire story including the quotes.</p>
<p>@Jon.  Based on references in your post, pre-k school is not the answer to closing the achievement gap.  Removing the children from the derelict parents at birth is the only hope!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have a source for this article?  I could not find it through searching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have a source for this article?  I could not find it through searching.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I&#8217;m not the only one who found this line incredibly scary:</p>
<p>&#8220;It takes a village to raise a child,&#8221; she said. &#8220;And if elected, I’ll be that village. <b>I know what’s best for you and all Americans.</b>&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;and I&#8217;m not even American.</p>
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