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	<title>Comments on: Credit Card Reform Act of 2008&#8211;Congress to the Rescue</title>
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		<title>By: Penny Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penny Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What needs to change is penalizing consumers if they cancel a credit card. Right now if you cancel a card your FICO score is negatively affected. this should stop. We need reform in this crucial area now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What needs to change is penalizing consumers if they cancel a credit card. Right now if you cancel a card your FICO score is negatively affected. this should stop. We need reform in this crucial area now.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwen England</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwen England</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think ccc are a rip off. When i first got my card it was 5% for a few months then it was agreed to go to 9%. When i sent my payment this month it was at 18.99% and its going up again. i&#039;m going to pay mine off and cancel it real soon. I don&#039;t owe them that much anymore,thank god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think ccc are a rip off. When i first got my card it was 5% for a few months then it was agreed to go to 9%. When i sent my payment this month it was at 18.99% and its going up again. i&#8217;m going to pay mine off and cancel it real soon. I don&#8217;t owe them that much anymore,thank god.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary K</title>
		<link>http://www.doughroller.net/credit-cards/credit-card-reform-act-of-2008-congress-to-the-rescue/comment-page-1/#comment-13780</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that most everyone here is missing the point.  The majority of the posts have spoken of credit card debt that was unavoidable, due to some financial crisis.  My question is: where was your money going before the crisis.

&quot;Living within your means&quot; does not mean spending every penny that you make.  It means spending LESS that you make and putting as much as possible aside every month to create that &quot;nest egg&quot; that will see you through the hard times.  This means, shopping sales or, heaven forbid, buying things second hand (yes, it is possible to get quality second hand), spending less on food (eating out and pre-processed food are a lot more expensive than you think when compared with cooking from scratch), clothing, accessories, furniture, etc.  For example, even with 3 adult males and myself in the house, I can still feed us all for under $300 a month.  It is possible, and it really doesn&#039;t take that much time.

Even as college students, we (my husband and I) have never once had to pay interest on our credit cards.  I could not even tell you what our interest rates are.  Why?  Because we do not use our credit cards unless we have the money in our accounts to pay for what we am buying (a novel concept, I know).  We don&#039;t usually buy things we don&#039;t need and, when we do decide to make such purchases, we discus whether the cost of these item are worth the time we would have to work to pay for them (the answer is usually &quot;no&quot;).

To be honest, the responses to the article demonstrate the typical American lack of responsibility.  What you need to understand is that the banks and credit card companies are BUSINESSES.  They will do what they have to to make their profits (if you don&#039;t like this concept, use a credit union; they usually offer the same services and are more customer friendly).  If you want to hang the banks for &quot;ruining the American economy&quot;, you will have to get a lot of extra nooses for the non-baking companies that also participate in similar acts (toss in one for the government, as well).

If you don&#039;t want to be at the mercies of the Big Bad Credit Card Company, don&#039;t put your self on the sacrificial alter.  Don&#039;t take a credit card so that you can have a little extra money.  I you need a credit card to build credit, READ THE FINE PRINT.  Discuss it with your banker.  If they reserve the right to alter the contract, they probably will so be prepared.  Save before the emergency.  But, please, spare me the sob story about how these companies have done you wrong.  I rather cliche...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that most everyone here is missing the point.  The majority of the posts have spoken of credit card debt that was unavoidable, due to some financial crisis.  My question is: where was your money going before the crisis.</p>
<p>&#8220;Living within your means&#8221; does not mean spending every penny that you make.  It means spending LESS that you make and putting as much as possible aside every month to create that &#8220;nest egg&#8221; that will see you through the hard times.  This means, shopping sales or, heaven forbid, buying things second hand (yes, it is possible to get quality second hand), spending less on food (eating out and pre-processed food are a lot more expensive than you think when compared with cooking from scratch), clothing, accessories, furniture, etc.  For example, even with 3 adult males and myself in the house, I can still feed us all for under $300 a month.  It is possible, and it really doesn&#8217;t take that much time.</p>
<p>Even as college students, we (my husband and I) have never once had to pay interest on our credit cards.  I could not even tell you what our interest rates are.  Why?  Because we do not use our credit cards unless we have the money in our accounts to pay for what we am buying (a novel concept, I know).  We don&#8217;t usually buy things we don&#8217;t need and, when we do decide to make such purchases, we discus whether the cost of these item are worth the time we would have to work to pay for them (the answer is usually &#8220;no&#8221;).</p>
<p>To be honest, the responses to the article demonstrate the typical American lack of responsibility.  What you need to understand is that the banks and credit card companies are BUSINESSES.  They will do what they have to to make their profits (if you don&#8217;t like this concept, use a credit union; they usually offer the same services and are more customer friendly).  If you want to hang the banks for &#8220;ruining the American economy&#8221;, you will have to get a lot of extra nooses for the non-baking companies that also participate in similar acts (toss in one for the government, as well).</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t want to be at the mercies of the Big Bad Credit Card Company, don&#8217;t put your self on the sacrificial alter.  Don&#8217;t take a credit card so that you can have a little extra money.  I you need a credit card to build credit, READ THE FINE PRINT.  Discuss it with your banker.  If they reserve the right to alter the contract, they probably will so be prepared.  Save before the emergency.  But, please, spare me the sob story about how these companies have done you wrong.  I rather cliche&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: billtill</title>
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		<dc:creator>billtill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this bill will do is foster an environment of less responsibility for those that are already irresponsible.  If the government keeps holding the hand of everyone who gets themselves into a predicament and tells them that it is not their fault they will never learn anything.  

Tough love.  Learn it and live it, unless you want to live like Venezuela, or Russia, or North Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this bill will do is foster an environment of less responsibility for those that are already irresponsible.  If the government keeps holding the hand of everyone who gets themselves into a predicament and tells them that it is not their fault they will never learn anything.  </p>
<p>Tough love.  Learn it and live it, unless you want to live like Venezuela, or Russia, or North Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.doughroller.net/credit-cards/credit-card-reform-act-of-2008-congress-to-the-rescue/comment-page-1/#comment-12451</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 15:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now the credit card industry is feeling the wrath of Congress who have suddenly discovered, after years of happily taking corporate contributions, that perhaps the consumers – i.e. disgruntled voters – may actually be worth listening to. Alas, congress and the current administration have yet again gone too far and many prudent, hard working and financially careful Americans (like me) will end up paying the price for the misspending of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the credit card industry is feeling the wrath of Congress who have suddenly discovered, after years of happily taking corporate contributions, that perhaps the consumers – i.e. disgruntled voters – may actually be worth listening to. Alas, congress and the current administration have yet again gone too far and many prudent, hard working and financially careful Americans (like me) will end up paying the price for the misspending of others.</p>
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		<title>By: jmr</title>
		<link>http://www.doughroller.net/credit-cards/credit-card-reform-act-of-2008-congress-to-the-rescue/comment-page-1/#comment-11417</link>
		<dc:creator>jmr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets see.  Since I am responsible, pay my credit card debt, can afford to do so and have paid religiously, never missing a payment, I should have my 9.9% fixed rate card unilaterally raised to a variable rate of 17.9%?  And oh, by the way, the card companies tell you that you can opt out and pay off under the old terms, which is fine, but what they don&#039;t tell you is, that doing so can damage your credit.  And oh, by the way,  the card companies also don&#039;t tell you that by unilaterally raising your rates they can damage your credit rating.  Either way you loose.  Don&#039;t use credit cards?  Try making a major purchase without a credit history,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets see.  Since I am responsible, pay my credit card debt, can afford to do so and have paid religiously, never missing a payment, I should have my 9.9% fixed rate card unilaterally raised to a variable rate of 17.9%?  And oh, by the way, the card companies tell you that you can opt out and pay off under the old terms, which is fine, but what they don&#8217;t tell you is, that doing so can damage your credit.  And oh, by the way,  the card companies also don&#8217;t tell you that by unilaterally raising your rates they can damage your credit rating.  Either way you loose.  Don&#8217;t use credit cards?  Try making a major purchase without a credit history,</p>
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		<title>By: CC defaultors deserve to die</title>
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		<dc:creator>CC defaultors deserve to die</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>basically....dont use credit cards.....thats the only way....who asked u to get a mountain of debt.....which u cant pay up?

u dont let a mountain fall on you and ask someone to take it off right? no one will have the ability....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>basically&#8230;.dont use credit cards&#8230;..thats the only way&#8230;.who asked u to get a mountain of debt&#8230;..which u cant pay up?</p>
<p>u dont let a mountain fall on you and ask someone to take it off right? no one will have the ability&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.doughroller.net/credit-cards/credit-card-reform-act-of-2008-congress-to-the-rescue/comment-page-1/#comment-11160</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have had numerous credit cards and lines of credit for many many years. both for my two corporations and personal.i&#039;ll be 50 in march. i have always paid on time and usually pay over what i am supposed to, even in this economic downturn. every week now i receive letters from all of the credit card companies raising my % rates and or lowering my cap. the customer service managers say with the economic down turn blah,blah,blah. we the people are going through a recession as well,  and didnt get handed a 700b bailout. the same banks that got the 700b are the same credit card co. that are now doing the above. free enteprise, sure i believe in it. i have a large inc. and a large llc. if i ran bus. the way the large lenders do i wouldnt be in business and or i&#039;d be in jail! govt. induced cc reform....you bet. someone needs to put these modern day thieves in check! they created the mortgage crisis, by lending people $ they shouoldnt have, getting a 700b bailout and then pouring salt in the middle class taxpayers wounds by sticking it to us with higher cc rates. put all the lipstick on it you want, they&#039;re still f------ pigs! and while all this is going on, giving themselves huge bonuses and parties for failed corporations! i&#039;ve sent letters to my senator, rep, the vp and president and encourage everyone else to do the same. until the public outcry is lound enough they will continue to stick-it to the working middle class! david h</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have had numerous credit cards and lines of credit for many many years. both for my two corporations and personal.i&#8217;ll be 50 in march. i have always paid on time and usually pay over what i am supposed to, even in this economic downturn. every week now i receive letters from all of the credit card companies raising my % rates and or lowering my cap. the customer service managers say with the economic down turn blah,blah,blah. we the people are going through a recession as well,  and didnt get handed a 700b bailout. the same banks that got the 700b are the same credit card co. that are now doing the above. free enteprise, sure i believe in it. i have a large inc. and a large llc. if i ran bus. the way the large lenders do i wouldnt be in business and or i&#8217;d be in jail! govt. induced cc reform&#8230;.you bet. someone needs to put these modern day thieves in check! they created the mortgage crisis, by lending people $ they shouoldnt have, getting a 700b bailout and then pouring salt in the middle class taxpayers wounds by sticking it to us with higher cc rates. put all the lipstick on it you want, they&#8217;re still f&#8212;&#8212; pigs! and while all this is going on, giving themselves huge bonuses and parties for failed corporations! i&#8217;ve sent letters to my senator, rep, the vp and president and encourage everyone else to do the same. until the public outcry is lound enough they will continue to stick-it to the working middle class! david h</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.doughroller.net/credit-cards/credit-card-reform-act-of-2008-congress-to-the-rescue/comment-page-1/#comment-10987</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About time. Though, I think this will place a lot of added compliance strain on credit  card companies  As Sen Maloney &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.savingtoinvest.com/2009/02/speeding-up-credit-card-reform-via.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; said &lt;/a&gt; in a recent update to the bill - &quot;A credit card agreement is supposed to be a contract, but in recent years cardholders have lost the ability to say no to unfair interest rate hikes and fees.... This bill levels the playing field between card companies and cardholders while fostering fair competition and free market</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About time. Though, I think this will place a lot of added compliance strain on credit  card companies  As Sen Maloney <a href="http://www.savingtoinvest.com/2009/02/speeding-up-credit-card-reform-via.html" rel="nofollow"> said </a> in a recent update to the bill &#8211; &#8220;A credit card agreement is supposed to be a contract, but in recent years cardholders have lost the ability to say no to unfair interest rate hikes and fees&#8230;. This bill levels the playing field between card companies and cardholders while fostering fair competition and free market</p>
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		<title>By: Chincia Kenner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chincia Kenner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think this will be enough. They need to include a law which prohibits the credit card lenders from falsifying their ledgers with false entries. These lenders need to be audited because they have violated the General accepting accounting principles. The application signed by the consumer for the credit card, is stamped on the back and turned into a promissory note. The transaction account is opened under the consumer&#039;s name , but if there was an audit done on any of the financial institutions who specialize in captilizing on subprime loans. you would not find a debit to the  transaction account equivalent to the line of credit. If the lender has converted your application  for $500 unsecured credit limit. There should be a debit shown the opening journey in the amount of $500.00 posted to the transaction account under the customers name. This considered as fraud.  

If the transaction is not showing a debit, then there is no loan. The financial institution should not be charging you  interest on a loan never issued.  The lender is allowing the transactions to go through and pay up to this amount, without any cash showing in the transaction account. It is illegal for the finance company or bank to charge interest on money which they never funded. Not to mention, the interest rates. They charge interest rates which are higher than usury law limits for where the consumer resides. They should not be allowed to that either.  IF the consumer signs the application while they are in the state where they reside, the law for that state will apply.  For credit limit increases, there should also be a debit to the transaction account , and ledger  which is equivalent to the dollar amount of the increase. None of the transaction accounts will reflect a debit being made to the account. So the finance companies must be able to approve, this cash was transferred to the account. If the consumer knew they did not have $500.00 they would not spend it.  Next, fee harvesting. The FTC cracked down on several credit card lenders for fee harvesting, which is not listed in the new laws. Fee harvesting is where the lender has issued a small credit limit of $300.00 , and charged all of these fees to the account, where your available credit is now reduced to $75.00. This is more than half of the available balance. This is just another way to disguise an advance fee loan. Last but not least, Credit card lenders who have violated the usury laws and falisified ledgers by violating the general accepted accounting principles should not be allowed to report negative information to the credit bureaus or file a claim for the swap out insurance carrier.  They should not be allowed to sell the debt to junk debt buyer or transfer those accounts to a new lender who has bought them out. They should be forced to write off those debts, and eat it. This is poor accounting practices and the consumer should not be forced to pay them for bad business. The punishment should result in the lender paying the consumer $1,000 for reporting false information to the credit bureau, $1,000 for sending the account to collections for invalid account, refund all interest applied to the account for the invalid loan.  Notice, all the lenders who have committed violations, are now acquired by other lenders. Now those lenders absorbing bad debt.  Now they need a bail out. They should not earn a bailout, unless they are going to clean up the mess, then they could earn a credit. But, there will never be balance until the lender is forced to due what&#039;s write by cleaning up the practices, their books, and correcting consumer reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think this will be enough. They need to include a law which prohibits the credit card lenders from falsifying their ledgers with false entries. These lenders need to be audited because they have violated the General accepting accounting principles. The application signed by the consumer for the credit card, is stamped on the back and turned into a promissory note. The transaction account is opened under the consumer&#8217;s name , but if there was an audit done on any of the financial institutions who specialize in captilizing on subprime loans. you would not find a debit to the  transaction account equivalent to the line of credit. If the lender has converted your application  for $500 unsecured credit limit. There should be a debit shown the opening journey in the amount of $500.00 posted to the transaction account under the customers name. This considered as fraud.  </p>
<p>If the transaction is not showing a debit, then there is no loan. The financial institution should not be charging you  interest on a loan never issued.  The lender is allowing the transactions to go through and pay up to this amount, without any cash showing in the transaction account. It is illegal for the finance company or bank to charge interest on money which they never funded. Not to mention, the interest rates. They charge interest rates which are higher than usury law limits for where the consumer resides. They should not be allowed to that either.  IF the consumer signs the application while they are in the state where they reside, the law for that state will apply.  For credit limit increases, there should also be a debit to the transaction account , and ledger  which is equivalent to the dollar amount of the increase. None of the transaction accounts will reflect a debit being made to the account. So the finance companies must be able to approve, this cash was transferred to the account. If the consumer knew they did not have $500.00 they would not spend it.  Next, fee harvesting. The FTC cracked down on several credit card lenders for fee harvesting, which is not listed in the new laws. Fee harvesting is where the lender has issued a small credit limit of $300.00 , and charged all of these fees to the account, where your available credit is now reduced to $75.00. This is more than half of the available balance. This is just another way to disguise an advance fee loan. Last but not least, Credit card lenders who have violated the usury laws and falisified ledgers by violating the general accepted accounting principles should not be allowed to report negative information to the credit bureaus or file a claim for the swap out insurance carrier.  They should not be allowed to sell the debt to junk debt buyer or transfer those accounts to a new lender who has bought them out. They should be forced to write off those debts, and eat it. This is poor accounting practices and the consumer should not be forced to pay them for bad business. The punishment should result in the lender paying the consumer $1,000 for reporting false information to the credit bureau, $1,000 for sending the account to collections for invalid account, refund all interest applied to the account for the invalid loan.  Notice, all the lenders who have committed violations, are now acquired by other lenders. Now those lenders absorbing bad debt.  Now they need a bail out. They should not earn a bailout, unless they are going to clean up the mess, then they could earn a credit. But, there will never be balance until the lender is forced to due what&#8217;s write by cleaning up the practices, their books, and correcting consumer reports.</p>
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